Janet Finch-Saunders
First Minister, the anti-slavery co-ordinator for Wales, Stephen Chapman, has admitted that there could be cases of modern-day slavery within the Welsh social care sector. He’s actually stated that, somewhere down the line, this is going on. Across such a large sector in Wales, problems may well be further down the public supply chain. What action are you taking to ensure that, where services are provided by our public bodies in Wales, there is a distinct and robust measure to prevent any form of modern-day slavery in Wales?
Prif Weinidog, mae cydgysylltydd gwrth-gaethwasiaeth Cymru, Stephen Chapman, wedi cyfaddef y gallai fod achosion o gaethwasiaeth fodern yn sector gofal cymdeithasol Cymru. Mae wedi dweud bod hyn yn digwydd yn rhywle. Ar draws sector mor fawr yng Nghymru, mae’n bosibl iawn y gallai problemau fod ymhellach i lawr y gadwyn gyflenwi gyhoeddus. Pa gamau ydych chi'n eu cymryd i sicrhau, lle mae gwasanaethau'n cael eu darparu gan ein cyrff cyhoeddus yng Nghymru, y ceir mesur pendant a chadarn i atal unrhyw fath o gaethwasiaeth fodern yng Nghymru?
Carwyn Jones - Y Prif Weinidog / The First Minister
Well, through the training, of course, that I’ve already indicated that the leadership group has taken forward, and secondly, of course, through the code of practice itself. I know that the co-ordinator is passionate in terms of ensuring that we drive slavery out, even where it is hidden, of course, in some organisations. She mentions the social care sector. She wasn’t claiming to have evidence, in fairness, that that happened, but she was quoting what might be happening in Wales. We work very closely with the co-ordinator to make sure that Wales, as I say, becomes hostile to slavery.
Wel, drwy'r hyfforddiant, wrth gwrs, yr wyf i wedi nodi eisoes y mae’r grŵp arweinyddiaeth wedi ei ddatblygu, ac yn ail, wrth gwrs, drwy'r cod ymarfer ei hun. Gwn fod y cydgysylltydd yn angerddol o ran sicrhau ein bod ni'n gyrru caethwasiaeth allan, hyd yn oed lle mae'n gudd, wrth gwrs, mewn rhai sefydliadau. Mae'n sôn am y sector gofal cymdeithasol. Nid oedd yn honni bod ganddi dystiolaeth, er tegwch, bod hynny’n digwydd, ond roedd hi'n dyfynnu’r hyn a allai fod yn digwydd yng Nghymru. Rydym ni’n gweithio'n agos iawn gyda'r cydgysylltydd i sicrhau bod Cymru, fel y dywedais, yn elyniaethus i gaethwasiaeth.